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Title : "I know auto theft is a growing issue, not just in Denver but everywhere, and it’s infuriating to be victimized like that, but I discourage any resident to taking a vigilante approach."
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"I know auto theft is a growing issue, not just in Denver but everywhere, and it’s infuriating to be victimized like that, but I discourage any resident to taking a vigilante approach."
Said Jamie Torres, a Denver city councilwoman, quoted in "Boy, 12, Is Fatally Shot by Owner of Stolen Car in Denver, Police Say/The boy was in the car when the vehicle’s owner found it using an app and 'exchanged fire' with the people inside, the police said" (NYT).
Was this vigilantism?
From the Wikipedia article on the topic:
According to political scientist Regina Bateson, vigilantism is "the extralegal prevention, investigation, or punishment of offenses."[1] The definition has three components:Can an owner of a car use an app to go in search of his stolen car? If he does, is it wrong to be armed? If, on finding his car, persons in the car point guns at him, isn't it self-defense to shoot the gun? I understand that the authorities like the idea of leaving it to them to decide what to do about crime, and I can see why they generally prefer that people not risk a confrontation, but I don't think it's "vigilantism" to go to retrieve your own property and to engage in legal self-defense.
- Extralegal: Vigilantism is done outside of the law (not necessarily in violation of the law)
- Prevention, investigation, or punishment: Vigilantism requires specific actions, not just attitudes or beliefs
- Offense: Vigilantism is a response to a perceived crime or violation of an authoritative norm
I don't know the facts of this case. I'm merely trying to picture what the words "exchanged fire" mean, and I note that the shooter has not been arrested. And I don't know the extent to which the Denver police have been effective in dealing with car theft.
Of course, the biggest problem is that a 12-year-old became involved in car theft. It led to his death. We're told that after he was shot in the head he "drove the car about two blocks" and "It was not clear if the boy had been driving the car before the shooting." Those are puzzling facts. Could he have moved into the driver's seat after being shot in the head? It seems more likely that he stepped on the gas to escape and as he was getting shot in the head and the car propelled itself 2 blocks.
It's very sad that a boy is dead and that his life was such that it ended the way he did.
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Said Jamie Torres, a Denver city councilwoman, quoted in "Boy, 12, Is Fatally Shot by Owner of Stolen Car in Denver, Police Say/The boy was in the car when the vehicle’s owner found it using an app and 'exchanged fire' with the people inside, the police said" (NYT).
Was this vigilantism?
From the Wikipedia article on the topic:
According to political scientist Regina Bateson, vigilantism is "the extralegal prevention, investigation, or punishment of offenses."[1] The definition has three components:Can an owner of a car use an app to go in search of his stolen car? If he does, is it wrong to be armed? If, on finding his car, persons in the car point guns at him, isn't it self-defense to shoot the gun? I understand that the authorities like the idea of leaving it to them to decide what to do about crime, and I can see why they generally prefer that people not risk a confrontation, but I don't think it's "vigilantism" to go to retrieve your own property and to engage in legal self-defense.
- Extralegal: Vigilantism is done outside of the law (not necessarily in violation of the law)
- Prevention, investigation, or punishment: Vigilantism requires specific actions, not just attitudes or beliefs
- Offense: Vigilantism is a response to a perceived crime or violation of an authoritative norm
I don't know the facts of this case. I'm merely trying to picture what the words "exchanged fire" mean, and I note that the shooter has not been arrested. And I don't know the extent to which the Denver police have been effective in dealing with car theft.
Of course, the biggest problem is that a 12-year-old became involved in car theft. It led to his death. We're told that after he was shot in the head he "drove the car about two blocks" and "It was not clear if the boy had been driving the car before the shooting." Those are puzzling facts. Could he have moved into the driver's seat after being shot in the head? It seems more likely that he stepped on the gas to escape and as he was getting shot in the head and the car propelled itself 2 blocks.
It's very sad that a boy is dead and that his life was such that it ended the way he did.
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