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Title : "What [E. Jean] Carroll did not do that day in the lingerie department dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman, where she says Mr. Trump pinned her against a wall..."
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"What [E. Jean] Carroll did not do that day in the lingerie department dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman, where she says Mr. Trump pinned her against a wall..."
"... pulled down her tights and shoved his fingers and then his penis into her vagina, is scream. 'I’m not a screamer,' she testified in civil court last week, when asked by an attorney for Mr. Trump why she hadn’t cried out. 'I was too much in a panic to scream. I was fighting.'... Not screaming was the cause, in 2017, for a sexual assault case being tossed out in Italy. It was a backdrop to a widely publicized 2018 criminal rape trial involving two well-known rugby players in Belfast, Northern Ireland, who were acquitted. And while experts in trauma and sexual assault, such as the psychologist James Hopper, have repeatedly shown that not screaming or crying out — freezing, essentially — is a common brain response to danger, the screaming myth endures."Writes Jessica Bennett in "Why Didn’t She Scream? And Other Questions Not to Ask a Rape Accuser" (NYT).
The reason to scream is for help. At Bergdorf's, there were, presumably, people within earshot who would have burst in and interrupted whatever was going on. Help was available. From the failure to summon help, you could infer that Carroll believed it was a situation best handled privately. She chose to do her own fighting, she testified, but she also says she was in a panic, perhaps unable to come up with the strategy of summoning help.
The failure to scream is part of the testimony, and both sides will use this evidence to argue for inferences in their favor. I'd say, even if you think victims instinctively scream, there are still some situations in which a crime is being committed and you rationally decide not to scream. If you've gone into a dressing room with a man, you've begun with a friendly, positive view of him. You might hesitate to involve the store personnel in rescuing you. You fight for yourself, and perhaps you even blame yourself for getting into that situation and want to protect the man from consequences. But it's still rape. As Carroll recounts the incident, she did not consent, and he knew it.
Of course, Trump's position is that it's all a fabrication, and the absence of a scream is also the basis for arguing that no incident of any kind occurred. That was Trump's testimony in his deposition. Trump's lawyer could also argue that if there were any encounter, Trump couldn't remember it, because it was an unmemorable, consensual dalliance.
ADDED: Writing this post, I noticed I have a tag for "scream" and for "yelling." Both tags have lots of posts, so I'm not going to pick one or the other and edit all the posts with whichever tag I decide should be absorbed into the other. Something made me say "scream" some of the time and "yelling" at others. Is screaming what women do and yelling what men do? Another way to put that is: screaming connotes fear and yelling connotes anger, and screaming suggests helplessness and yelling seems more about taking action.
AND: Screaming as a response to Trump:
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"... pulled down her tights and shoved his fingers and then his penis into her vagina, is scream. 'I’m not a screamer,' she testified in civil court last week, when asked by an attorney for Mr. Trump why she hadn’t cried out. 'I was too much in a panic to scream. I was fighting.'... Not screaming was the cause, in 2017, for a sexual assault case being tossed out in Italy. It was a backdrop to a widely publicized 2018 criminal rape trial involving two well-known rugby players in Belfast, Northern Ireland, who were acquitted. And while experts in trauma and sexual assault, such as the psychologist James Hopper, have repeatedly shown that not screaming or crying out — freezing, essentially — is a common brain response to danger, the screaming myth endures."
Writes Jessica Bennett in "Why Didn’t She Scream? And Other Questions Not to Ask a Rape Accuser" (NYT).
ALSO: The topic of rape and not screaming comes up in Jonathan Franzen's novel "Freedom":
Writes Jessica Bennett in "Why Didn’t She Scream? And Other Questions Not to Ask a Rape Accuser" (NYT).
The reason to scream is for help. At Bergdorf's, there were, presumably, people within earshot who would have burst in and interrupted whatever was going on. Help was available. From the failure to summon help, you could infer that Carroll believed it was a situation best handled privately. She chose to do her own fighting, she testified, but she also says she was in a panic, perhaps unable to come up with the strategy of summoning help.
The failure to scream is part of the testimony, and both sides will use this evidence to argue for inferences in their favor. I'd say, even if you think victims instinctively scream, there are still some situations in which a crime is being committed and you rationally decide not to scream. If you've gone into a dressing room with a man, you've begun with a friendly, positive view of him. You might hesitate to involve the store personnel in rescuing you. You fight for yourself, and perhaps you even blame yourself for getting into that situation and want to protect the man from consequences. But it's still rape. As Carroll recounts the incident, she did not consent, and he knew it.
Of course, Trump's position is that it's all a fabrication, and the absence of a scream is also the basis for arguing that no incident of any kind occurred. That was Trump's testimony in his deposition. Trump's lawyer could also argue that if there were any encounter, Trump couldn't remember it, because it was an unmemorable, consensual dalliance.
ADDED: Writing this post, I noticed I have a tag for "scream" and for "yelling." Both tags have lots of posts, so I'm not going to pick one or the other and edit all the posts with whichever tag I decide should be absorbed into the other. Something made me say "scream" some of the time and "yelling" at others. Is screaming what women do and yelling what men do? Another way to put that is: screaming connotes fear and yelling connotes anger, and screaming suggests helplessness and yelling seems more about taking action.
AND: Screaming as a response to Trump:
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